gruxx
06-14-2006, 01:39 PM
OK, first post, and there are so many channel, antenna, sat questions, I figured that posting here might get the most traffic/replys.
system:
30" westinghouse lcd.
hr10-250 + 3lnb
75ohm-300ohm converter +3ft old electrical wire antenna
located just off stelzer between the airport and easton.
2nd floor, clear Lines of sight, 80+ on the 3 sats.
about 8 miles to the wbns/wcmh/wsyx towers
about 30 miles to the wwho tower
Yesterday, after a 18months of watching sd directivo signal on an lcd tv, I finally installed the hr10.
last week, the newegg $400 you own recievers dissappeared, (only to reappear yesterday :mad: ). Tivoforum, avsforum, and satelliteguys all started posting threads about free hr10 with purchase of Sunday ticket. so I bit. Over the weekend, I called retention, gave them a spiel, they hooked me up with the free hr10, free superfan hd upgrade, and 3mo free hd package. I paid 229 for the sunday ticket, no lease fee.
For antenna, I had none. The lcd only has ntsc, not atsc tuners, so I didn't know what I would need, I just went into the closet and hooked up old copper electrical wire to the two screw adapter ends of a 300-75 ohm converter coax cable, and threw the end of the wire out on the deck. Hooked it up to the coax ntsc lcd input, I got 4,6,10,28,34,53. vhfs were clear, the uhfs except 28 were grainy. This is what I would use.
The D* tech hooked up the hr10, and looked incredulusly at the wire to nowhere on the deck. I pleaded with him to just try it and see.
I got 4-1, 4-2, 6-1, 10-12345, 28-1, 34-123, 42-123, 51-1, 53-1.
After reloading all my seasonpasses, I was flipping through the channels, and 53 was coming in ok, one noticed hiccup, but I was getting 28 really choppy/pixelated. I got no signal on the 42's.
I added another length of wire to the ends of 300ohm, and strung it out on the deck. A crude attempt at a dipole. then I re-scanned channels. 28-2 appeared THETUBE! and 28-1 came in at 95% . 42 was still gone, I deleted 51, and now 53-1 disappeared, sometimes a blip of 4-7% appeared on ln2, mostly silent on both OTA tuners.
whatever, Didn't think anything of it. until the gilmoregirls seasonpass kicked on at 11:30 during the nba game and the antenna line signal box appeared. So, i unhooked the wire extension, and returned it to near the way it was earlier.
Now 6-1 started getting a little choppy, and it was the 4th quarter. So I streched the original wire back out a little, and 6 cleared up enough for whatever gain it was getting to clear up the signal noise, so I could watch the last 30 min, with no audio/video problems.
SO, should i hit the rat shack tonight and get a cheap bowtie to finalize my signal or go with a somewhat better indoor antenna? (i rent) what are the floor threshold OTA signal % to avoid rain issues/ pixelation. 60? 80? 90? or was there some multipath/hotair effect ruining my 53 signal? Yesterday was sunny, I'd hate to see what happens during an afternoon pop-up t-storm.
Sorry that I don't have the current signal strength for my digital channels, I'll post them tonight to provide as a comparison.
Is there a 6-2 or 53-2 that I should be getting? is there a sticky somewhere with the full Columbus DTV listings and associated frequencies?
Second, why does wwho list gilmore girls as hdtv, but the episode had the black dtv panel bars, and the image was well, crap. do we believe that the new CW signal in the fall will be a full hd signal? I've seen a lot of HD issues with the wwho programming in the wwho specific thread. Do we think the CW will clear some of that up in september?
Last, just some HR10 tips I discovered last night.
for some reason my tv won't change aspect ratio unless the tivo is sending a 480i signal. this was upsetting my wife as I fumbled through attempts to remove the letterbox effect on SD Rescue Me. (nothing is really more irritating than watching a letterboxed show in 4:3 window on a 16:9 tv, or put another way, to have black bars surrounding every side of the picture.)
Hr10 also ranks the output so once HDMI is connected, composite shuts off. The HR10 ranks it's outputs: HDMI, composite, s-video, RGB, coax. I guess that is a safety feature on the box to prevent piracy. So Its a subtle hassle, but maybe others won't have to worry about it.
I'll parcel out my questions in the future to the appropriate forums, but this starting point just has too many combined questions. Thanks for any help.
system:
30" westinghouse lcd.
hr10-250 + 3lnb
75ohm-300ohm converter +3ft old electrical wire antenna
located just off stelzer between the airport and easton.
2nd floor, clear Lines of sight, 80+ on the 3 sats.
about 8 miles to the wbns/wcmh/wsyx towers
about 30 miles to the wwho tower
Yesterday, after a 18months of watching sd directivo signal on an lcd tv, I finally installed the hr10.
last week, the newegg $400 you own recievers dissappeared, (only to reappear yesterday :mad: ). Tivoforum, avsforum, and satelliteguys all started posting threads about free hr10 with purchase of Sunday ticket. so I bit. Over the weekend, I called retention, gave them a spiel, they hooked me up with the free hr10, free superfan hd upgrade, and 3mo free hd package. I paid 229 for the sunday ticket, no lease fee.
For antenna, I had none. The lcd only has ntsc, not atsc tuners, so I didn't know what I would need, I just went into the closet and hooked up old copper electrical wire to the two screw adapter ends of a 300-75 ohm converter coax cable, and threw the end of the wire out on the deck. Hooked it up to the coax ntsc lcd input, I got 4,6,10,28,34,53. vhfs were clear, the uhfs except 28 were grainy. This is what I would use.
The D* tech hooked up the hr10, and looked incredulusly at the wire to nowhere on the deck. I pleaded with him to just try it and see.
I got 4-1, 4-2, 6-1, 10-12345, 28-1, 34-123, 42-123, 51-1, 53-1.
After reloading all my seasonpasses, I was flipping through the channels, and 53 was coming in ok, one noticed hiccup, but I was getting 28 really choppy/pixelated. I got no signal on the 42's.
I added another length of wire to the ends of 300ohm, and strung it out on the deck. A crude attempt at a dipole. then I re-scanned channels. 28-2 appeared THETUBE! and 28-1 came in at 95% . 42 was still gone, I deleted 51, and now 53-1 disappeared, sometimes a blip of 4-7% appeared on ln2, mostly silent on both OTA tuners.
whatever, Didn't think anything of it. until the gilmoregirls seasonpass kicked on at 11:30 during the nba game and the antenna line signal box appeared. So, i unhooked the wire extension, and returned it to near the way it was earlier.
Now 6-1 started getting a little choppy, and it was the 4th quarter. So I streched the original wire back out a little, and 6 cleared up enough for whatever gain it was getting to clear up the signal noise, so I could watch the last 30 min, with no audio/video problems.
SO, should i hit the rat shack tonight and get a cheap bowtie to finalize my signal or go with a somewhat better indoor antenna? (i rent) what are the floor threshold OTA signal % to avoid rain issues/ pixelation. 60? 80? 90? or was there some multipath/hotair effect ruining my 53 signal? Yesterday was sunny, I'd hate to see what happens during an afternoon pop-up t-storm.
Sorry that I don't have the current signal strength for my digital channels, I'll post them tonight to provide as a comparison.
Is there a 6-2 or 53-2 that I should be getting? is there a sticky somewhere with the full Columbus DTV listings and associated frequencies?
Second, why does wwho list gilmore girls as hdtv, but the episode had the black dtv panel bars, and the image was well, crap. do we believe that the new CW signal in the fall will be a full hd signal? I've seen a lot of HD issues with the wwho programming in the wwho specific thread. Do we think the CW will clear some of that up in september?
Last, just some HR10 tips I discovered last night.
for some reason my tv won't change aspect ratio unless the tivo is sending a 480i signal. this was upsetting my wife as I fumbled through attempts to remove the letterbox effect on SD Rescue Me. (nothing is really more irritating than watching a letterboxed show in 4:3 window on a 16:9 tv, or put another way, to have black bars surrounding every side of the picture.)
Hr10 also ranks the output so once HDMI is connected, composite shuts off. The HR10 ranks it's outputs: HDMI, composite, s-video, RGB, coax. I guess that is a safety feature on the box to prevent piracy. So Its a subtle hassle, but maybe others won't have to worry about it.
I'll parcel out my questions in the future to the appropriate forums, but this starting point just has too many combined questions. Thanks for any help.